Interview on the Drew Marshall Show

Here’s a recording of an interview for the Drew Marshall Show, described as “Canada’s Most Listened To Spiritual Talk Show.” His co-anchor Nathalie, whose last name I sadly never learned, also teaches Ethics to undergraduates, so we had a lot to talk about. Canadians have a different response to U.S. torture than Americans; they have less to be defensive about.


The image on the left is a close-up of the most beautiful gift anyone has ever given me, a silk shawl, woven by the woman behind this web site, on a warp painted by this woman. I am beyond grateful.

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